It sounds as if you truly have a grudge against Detroit sports fans and Detroit in general. I dont recall that you discussed the fact that Artest and Jackson were the ones who started throwing punches at fans, True one fan threw a cup at Artest, but it was the punches thrown by Indiana Players that got everybody into it. It is not the first time a fan has thrown something at a fan. It has happened at Villanova even. But it is rare for the players to bust into the crowd and start beating up fans, causing them to defend themselves. get the story straight. you sound like Dan Rather talking about Bush. Dan DeSmet, Rocklin Ca